2.4 Inlet General 2.4 Inlet Manifold Questions

vocky

Staff
blue se2 said:
So do are you saying have 2 oneway valves then? Leave the standard one on then get another with the Vacuum take off as well.

I forgot about the fpr take off :roll:

you need to get another one way valve to replace the one currently fitted, so that you have the small nipple for the fpr vacuum.

make sure it's the same type as your current one way valve (larger to inlet, smaller to servo)
 

vocky

Staff
andyroo said:
I think ive gone mad :-S

and me :LOL:

blue se2 :- you need to remove your current one way valve and fit one which has a small take off fitted, I don't know the part number for that :(
 

Daz

Former Staff
Senior Member
Just to throw a spanner in the works.....my mrs 2.0 vec has got a one way valve with a small take off for the heaters,so Theres another possibilty..
 

Lightning Coupé

Senior Member
Just typed a long post about me fitting the Manifold and TB today and bloody lost it :evil:

So the short of it is, I can confirm it fits the astra but its a fair bit harder than you think and there more things to modify, includidng the air con compresor that gets in the way. If your not a competent engineer your might struggle fitting it to be honest, and you really need a good set of torque sockets from E5 to E14. The good news is that I have photos from start to finish and 3 pages of notes I made as I went allong so I can post a good How-to for the Astra most of which will apply to the vectra. Ill post it up monday when I get chance, until then I'd hang off fitting yours as I learnt a bit from doing mine that will make your life easyer.

Anyway, Started up with 2.4 manifold and TB. Reved it up and the ecu went limp :( . Disconected battery to reset, fitted original TB and the ECU went limp again when rev'd up. Scratched head, swore a bit, phoned a freind, relised I had fitted the 2.4 map sensor and changed it for the original. Sorted! took it for a spanking and everything seems sweet. No warning lights, no nothing, just a shed load more power up in the higher rev range. Will try the bigger TB back on tomorrow and report. Of to pub now! :D
 

Lightning Coupé

Senior Member
A word of warning then, when you pull the injectors out all the s**t and grit and small stones that sit in the recess the injector body sits in will fall into the head and if your valves are open, into the cylinder bore. Dosent tell you that in the frickin haynes manual. So before you remove them or the manifold, once the TB and ECU are out the way so you have better access, clean as much as you can get to, perhaps get a compressed air gun in and blow it all out best you can, or if you dont have a compressor use a can of air like the stuff pc world sell for cleanig your computer. If you get s**t in there your gonna ruin the cylinder bores. I was lucky and managed to get the s**t that fell in out with a tiny hoover nozzle I have, then wiped it out with a rag and finanly blew it out to be extra sure.
 

Lightning Coupé

Senior Member
andyroo said:
Lightning Coupé said:
just a shed load more power up in the higher rev range

Did it seem like substantially more power? Like very noticeable? This is what i want dammit

It feels like it pulls harder right to the red line now. Not so noticable low down in the revs, but I recon at least 10bhp up top. I recon it will be better again when I get the bigger TB on. I need to do about another 4 hours work or more to get it all fitting perfect. Remember, I have cams aswell and its not been mapped, so its far from ideal, and yet its made a big differance. Once Its all maped in, it should go like a rocket. P.s. I spoke to Thoney motorsprt on monday and there only a few weeks away from finalising a tuning pakage for these mods....
 

vocky

Staff
glad it's up and running cheers..


why did you need to remove the injectors notsure.gif

more room dunno..

I never touched them on my vx220 or Jamee's astra when we swapped the inlet manifold :?

oh wait, we did have to slightly bend the air con pipe - about 5mm :roll:
 

digger

Regular Member
im just wondering what i should expect to see as a gain or anything in the plus box? as i went for modding the inlet mani for our car and the 2.4 tb dunno..
 

ASTRA2.2BADLAD

Regular Member
Cant wait to get mine need it before i leave vauxhall cos wen i in AA ill be doing it on the back street !!! :( How long now for the group buy!! Never removed one a these manifolds do you definatly have to remove all the studs or is it ok with just the nuts off ( removing the manifold)?? Cos if the studs snap thats gunna be s**te!!! notsure.gif
 

Lightning Coupé

Senior Member
In all honesty I used the haynes manual to guide me along the way a little, and it recomended removing the injectors. I tryed to leave them in but it just didnt want to come out with them in the way. I'm not saying its imposible, perhaps youve just got the knack Vocky! smart arse :LOL: but I found that even with the injectors out the air con pump pipe was in the way of removing the thing. Thats why I removed the pump and later bent the pipe a little to make way for the new manifold. I found the bottom rad brackets had to be removed too? Still its all done now and Ill get the instructions up soon, then if anyone else has trouble they know exactly what to do and if they find any short cuts they can be added.
 

Lightning Coupé

Senior Member
You definatly have to remove the studs, but there is only two of them and there not prone to rust or anything where they are, they should p**s straight out.
 

vocky

Staff
digger said:
im just wondering what i should expect to see as a gain or anything in the plus box? as i went for modding the inlet mani for our car and the 2.4 tb dunno..

the modded 2.2 inlet must give 5 bhp or so, as you can tell it's been done when you drive with one fitted, the 2.4 tb should also give noticeable performance gain, but you need cams to get the best from them both :)
 

markv

Regular Member
Lightning Coupé said:
You definatly have to remove the studs, but there is only two of them and there not prone to rust or anything where they are, they should p**s straight out.

Which I had been so lucky. One went out without any problem, the other one is still in. No way to get it out which made removing and fitting the manifold that much harder..

Mark
 

luna_s

Regular Member
as a precaution the manifold won't fit with the 120amp alternator, only the 100amp - the casing is about 5mm too long, I compared them today when i fitted the manifold to a vx220 had to swap alternators
 
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