will a 2.2 cam locking tool fit z20 net?

vocky

vocky

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The saab B207 doesn't have the cam sprocket tabs, so timing up the cams is much harder and a specialist job.

I guess the z20net will be the same :(
 
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tonner

Member
yeah seems it! wouldn't mind so much if the locking tool was easily available, I think I need someone with an spx tools account. even took it to Vauxhall and tried to explain what I need, they didn't have a clue and didn't have a tool themselves.
 
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tonner

Member
ive tried to time it up by eye again and as you would expect its still not right, does anyone no where I can get one of these timing tools that's not from spx tools? or anyone that would borrow me one?
 
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misterY

Member
Hello, I have a question for you experts with the Z20NET locking tool. I bought the KM-6362 locking tool for the Z20NET (Signum modell year 2004). Could s.o. maybe tell me how it fits the com profile?
I expected it to fit an match perfectly the cam profile, but it didn't. After fitting them with the necessary 10Nm it went down a little bit and the camshafts were fixed and you coulnd't turn the camshafts. I still wasn't that much safisfied but did not knew better, so put on the chain acording to TIS.
Maybe I should say, that I put on chains on SE an YH dozens of times and have a routine with chain-work, but haven't done a NET so far. After putting on the chain, I checked timing all along with the TIS guide.
After we startet the engine, it ran but has unstable idle and it shows P0300 (misfire on several cylinders).
Could s.o. tell me, what my problem could be? Where could I made something wrong and what is about the locking tool. Its a KENT-MOORE. I hope its original, I can post a picture of it.
Thank you guys for helping!
 
evocarlos

evocarlos

Stupid Bollocks
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misterY said:
Hello, I have a question for you experts with the Z20NET locking tool. I bought the KM-6362 locking tool for the Z20NET (Signum modell year 2004). Could s.o. maybe tell me how it fits the com profile?
I expected it to fit an match perfectly the cam profile, but it didn't. After fitting them with the necessary 10Nm it went down a little bit and the camshafts were fixed and you coulnd't turn the camshafts. I still wasn't that much safisfied but did not knew better, so put on the chain acording to TIS.
Maybe I should say, that I put on chains on SE an YH dozens of times and have a routine with chain-work, but haven't done a NET so far. After putting on the chain, I checked timing all along with the TIS guide.
After we startet the engine, it ran but has unstable idle and it shows P0300 (misfire on several cylinders).
Could s.o. tell me, what my problem could be? Where could I made something wrong and what is about the locking tool. Its a KENT-MOORE. I hope its original, I can post a picture of it.
Thank you guys for helping!
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where did you fit the cam looking tools ? on cylinder 1 or #4 ?
 
KevinH

KevinH

Senior Member
Tool 8396046 (KM-6362) is for:
2.0L 2003,2004,2005,2006 175HP (8th Digit of Vin=S)

Tool 8396079 is for:
2.0L 2003,2004,2005,2006 Saab 210HP (8th Digit of Vin=N or Y) includes 8396053 and 8396061 (gold in colour)

Tool EN-48368 is for:
2.0L 2007,2008,2009 210HP B207 (8th Digit of Vin=Y)
and 4.4L 2006 LC3

Hope that helps
 
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misterY

Member
I am getting closer to the problem. Searched the internet really hard about this problem an got very useful infos on a polish vectra site, where theres a big and active community.
Probably around the 14th I will have the answer for the problem and will post the results.
 
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misterY

Member
KevinH said:
Tool 8396046 (KM-6362) is for:
2.0L 2003,2004,2005,2006 175HP (8th Digit of Vin=S)

Tool 8396079 is for:
2.0L 2003,2004,2005,2006 Saab 210HP (8th Digit of Vin=N or Y) includes 8396053 and 8396061 (gold in colour)

Tool EN-48368 is for:
2.0L 2007,2008,2009 210HP B207 (8th Digit of Vin=Y)
and 4.4L 2006 LC3

Hope that helps
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Hello Kevin and everyone interested.

I knew this assignment, but it turned out to be wrong! Yes, Opel/Vauxhaull/Saab/GM made a big mistake with it and gave even Kent-Moore this wrong informations.
The Tool EN-48368 does fit models from the start. Even when it is every in official GM informations writtens, that his is noch the case. We checked the engine number whether the car of my friend got an exchange-engine or head. But its the original engine an the original head from 2004. Thanks to guys from a polish vectra forum (some of them living in the UK) who solved the problem, I ordered the green EN-48368 from Kent-Moore. I readjusted the timing with it. The cam profile of the 2004 engine cams fits perfectly the "so-called 2007- green tool" EN- 48368. We started the engine, perfect idle, no error codes. I would never question original informations of the manufacturer, but as ther are others with the same problem. Everyone in this forum testing the timing with their pre and post 2007 Z20NET had the same result.

What I cannot say is, if this applies to all Z20NET engines, because our database is simply too small. Maybe there are Z20NET where KM-6362 fits? If not , for which engine is KM-6362? Mayby only for the 150hp B207? I don't know so far, but what the assignement is definetly not right!

Hopefully that helps someone. And it would be interesting, to discover more about it.
 
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