bigger diameter backbox vx220

drpau

Member
Ive been thinking about trying to get hold of a Vx220 turbo standard exhaust and wacking it in my VX, was thinking the lower backpressure of this exhaust and bigger pipework (I think 2.5inch vs ~2" on the normal vx) would help it breath a bit better, is this a good idea or am I talking bo11ocks? I think it will bolt straight on to the existing pipework without any mods but will it give me any benefit?

Opinions please...
 

luna_s

Regular Member
its 2.25" i've fitted one, as to the results i'm not sure - i think you also need the turbo U Bend

there was some pics of the internal differences somewhere - but my reckoning was the same as yours.

i'm still considering modding a standard backbox to 2.5" pipework but its a lot of work
 

markv

Regular Member
Bigger pipe work should help, but you will probably need to get everything bigger. Seems to basically work like a straw, if you don't make the whole straw wider, you won't be able to drink your drink faster :)

I don't know what the best diameter is. I have had good results upgrading the whole exhaust to 2.5" (manifold exits in something like 2.7" if I recall correctly, it is 2.5" from there). Before/after graph:

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Mark
 

winstar

Regular Member
I've said this before but IMO the thin u bend is a large loss in the vx system.

The cheapest 2.5" low pressure back box is the blue flame one for the VXT
 

OAKMERE

Regular Member
Thinking of trying a Blueflame for my NA as it should fit (Larini only have one backbox for both cars)

Cheers Oakmere
 

vocky

Staff
winstar said:
I've said this before but IMO the thin u bend is a large loss in the vx system.
and you are correct cheers..

simply fitting a 2.5" U bend makes so much difference showo..
 

drpau

Member
So the standard turbo box is 2.25". What is the piper then? I remember Edbutlers mate saying he could get me one of those for a good price ;-)

Is it because the U bend is such a tight one that it is a big restriction?
 

OAKMERE

Regular Member
drpau

The piper is 2.25" as are most of the after market vx220 exhaust apart form the Milltek which is 2"? The Piper flows well but is apparently quite noisy. I was hoping to get a 2.5" backbox as markv got good results and vocky said the 2.5" u-tube alone made a difference.

Cheers Oakmere
 

winstar

Regular Member
edbutler said:
Just get a Piper man! Cheapish and sound luvvverly :D

What dimeter Pipe are they?

IIRC the Blue flame turbo exhaust isn't much more than the Piper, if you can put up with the dodgy tail pipes
 

edbutler

Regular Member
The piper is 2.25" and i think its saves you around 7kg. Also the U-Bend is well thought out so the gas takes a longer, faster apex :)
 

Jase_MK

Member
edbutler said:
The piper is 2.25" and i think its saves you around 7kg. Also the U-Bend is well thought out so the gas takes a longer, faster apex :)

Are you talking about the U bend after the back box that leads into the tail pipes? I think people here are talking about the 180 degree bend that joins the cat to the backbox. I used to have a Piper and pretty sure the u-bend after the cat is just a plain and simple one. The one after the backbox, however, does curve out and do a bigger radius bend.
 

rabidh

Regular Member
I did a vocky-type mod to my standard backbox to get a 2.5" entry into it, then cut out some of the baffles. You'd have to be able to weld, or get someone to do it, but it might be worth a try. NA backboxes are dirt cheap on ebay.

Only issue is the tailpipes are still the same diameter (although you could poss. change that). Definitely a massive improvement to sound! Not roaded it yet, so I'm not sure what performance improvement it would have had, but it feels quick :)
 
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