Noxious89123
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Hi guys,
I'm wondering which parts if any from the Z20NET will fit the Z22SE.
The parts I'm most interested in being the inlet and exhaust manifolds. I've been doing a bit of research, and from what I could find, it looks like they should fit, although whether or not there is physically space for the turbo in the engine bay is still up for debate. it would ofcourse require a custom made downpipe, as I can't really see the Vectra / Signum / Saab part fitting. For one thing, the standard Z20NET downpipe has a massive 'cat on it right near the turbo. I'd much rather have a custom downpipe made up, going to a 200cpi cat in the place of the standard cat, under the car.
My thoughts were along the lines of fitting the exhaust manifold and turbo from the Z20NET onto my Z22SE, and using Peter Munckhof's OBDTuner firmware on the standard ECU to get it running properly. I've been talking to Peter, and it seems that it should work, but I may lose some functionality, such as the trip computer, T/C and of most concern, the ABS. But this is just speculation, as we cannot be sure; The software has only been tested and used on the VX220 / Speedster.
The OBDTuner setup would allow me to get a very good fuel map, in theory much better than any current tuners like Courtenay are capable of doing, as they are dealing with the limitations of the standard software. (They would just change the fuel map, correct? Or do they change the software on the ECU aswell?).
With OBDTuner, I would also have the option of using a larger throttle body from one of the other Ecotec engines, and larger fuel injectors. I'd also thought about using the standard Z20LET intercooler from an Astra GSi, as this should fit straight in, assuming I can get it all plumbed up.
My thoughts are not to chase huge power figures. It just seems a much easier way of getting more power than staying N/A, whilst keeping the car very drivable and with room to wind the power up in future if I should so choose.
The car is my commuter, but after doing my first trackday earlier this year, I will definitely be doing more trackdays!
The brakes have already been upgraded with the GSi 308mm setup, along with plenty of air ducting to the brakes.
I'm wanting to do it this way, as it seems like the cheapest option, what with being able to easily get hold of 2nd hand Z20NET manifolds / injectors / turbo's etc, rather than having to blow thousands on a "kit". Why pay for bespoke, special made parts from the likes of DBilas, when there are OEM parts that will bolt straight on and do the job!
I'm wondering which parts if any from the Z20NET will fit the Z22SE.
The parts I'm most interested in being the inlet and exhaust manifolds. I've been doing a bit of research, and from what I could find, it looks like they should fit, although whether or not there is physically space for the turbo in the engine bay is still up for debate. it would ofcourse require a custom made downpipe, as I can't really see the Vectra / Signum / Saab part fitting. For one thing, the standard Z20NET downpipe has a massive 'cat on it right near the turbo. I'd much rather have a custom downpipe made up, going to a 200cpi cat in the place of the standard cat, under the car.
My thoughts were along the lines of fitting the exhaust manifold and turbo from the Z20NET onto my Z22SE, and using Peter Munckhof's OBDTuner firmware on the standard ECU to get it running properly. I've been talking to Peter, and it seems that it should work, but I may lose some functionality, such as the trip computer, T/C and of most concern, the ABS. But this is just speculation, as we cannot be sure; The software has only been tested and used on the VX220 / Speedster.
The OBDTuner setup would allow me to get a very good fuel map, in theory much better than any current tuners like Courtenay are capable of doing, as they are dealing with the limitations of the standard software. (They would just change the fuel map, correct? Or do they change the software on the ECU aswell?).
With OBDTuner, I would also have the option of using a larger throttle body from one of the other Ecotec engines, and larger fuel injectors. I'd also thought about using the standard Z20LET intercooler from an Astra GSi, as this should fit straight in, assuming I can get it all plumbed up.
My thoughts are not to chase huge power figures. It just seems a much easier way of getting more power than staying N/A, whilst keeping the car very drivable and with room to wind the power up in future if I should so choose.
The car is my commuter, but after doing my first trackday earlier this year, I will definitely be doing more trackdays!
The brakes have already been upgraded with the GSi 308mm setup, along with plenty of air ducting to the brakes.
I'm wanting to do it this way, as it seems like the cheapest option, what with being able to easily get hold of 2nd hand Z20NET manifolds / injectors / turbo's etc, rather than having to blow thousands on a "kit". Why pay for bespoke, special made parts from the likes of DBilas, when there are OEM parts that will bolt straight on and do the job!
