6 speed conversion

vocky

Staff
If you want to replace your dual mass flywheel with a light flywheel all you require;

1 x TTV z22se / z22yh light flywheel

1 x F23 clutch cover

you might be able to use a standard z22yh M32 clutch disc, but you might get shaking when you pull away

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Crazy

Member
Thanks for answers)
With the flywheel is now clear at all that they are the same size (height, diameter, fixed) to the motors z22se & z22yh, but I could not find the information anywhere until I found you) I compared only himself and understood that the flywheel size should be the same ... you have confirmed it. It is very pleasing)
And with the clutch disk, I understand that it is necessary to good damping - tell me what kind of catalog number you set http://www.helix-autosport.com/products/performance-clutches/opel/ ??
That's only because of this I can not understand why you did not put the factory basket z22yh for box M32, if the same size flywheels on motors z22se & z22yh and you put a basket z22se for box F23 ... very interesting - why so??
Clutch releaser z22yh for M32 - sachs 3182 600 133
https://webcat.zf.com/index.asp?PKW...&KMODNR=4865&KTYPNR=0&LASTPAGE=nc2_dialog.asp - All right??
 

Crazy

Member
you can purchase only the M32 sprung plate from Courtenay, just ask them
http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/buy...e-cover-and-uprated-sprung-disc/prod_722.html

I used the F23 clutch cover (basket) because I had one already, so it was cheaper, that is the only reason the TTV z22se M32 flywheel uses the F23 cover
If I understand you correctly that if you did not have the old clutch basket from the box F23, you would confidently be put clutch basket M32 228 mm z22yh and factory clutch release M32 z22yh...would also be working properly? Sorry for so many questions, I just want to buy everything right, so I'm with you advice, so as soon as only you put the box M32 from z22yh to yours z22se motor and used lightweight flywheel z22se, and only you know how it works.
Look please: my version, and how you think it will work fine:
1) "TTV" Lightweight flywheel Opel Vauxhall 2.2 Z22SE
2) 'Helix' Sprung plate disc - you may remember the clutch plate number? Since I'm not sure it will fit 240mm clutch disc with 20 teeth from Z20LEH/M32
3) "Sachs" Clutch Pressure Plate (performance)
M32 for z22yh
4) 'Factory' Releaser M32
 

vocky

Staff
1) yes the TTV flywheel will fit a z22yh engine
2) Helix sprung plate disc - I purchased my 228mm Helix clutch disc from Courtenay
3) I use 'Factory' F23 clutch pressure basket
4) 'Factory' Releaser M32
 

Crazy

Member
Hi
One more question
I can not find anywhere information about the Speedster 2.2 flywheel in factory - flywheel on speedster single mass or dual mass in factory?
As Sachs offers factory clutch disc with a large springs for Speedster 2.2 as in the cars with single mass flywheel
Thanks for the answer
 

Crazy

Member
factory flywheel z22se = 9.5 Kg
And strongly shakes the engine at idle?
I just have a dual flywheel even harder to 12.5 kg
That even I can not imagine how the engine will behave with such a difference in weight - it is three times less than the factory flywheel
 

Crazy

Member
update;

you can now buy a z22se M32 lightened flywheel from TTV Racing £228 +vat

this means the slave cylinder does not now need any spacers, so simply fit the z22se M32 flywheel, Helix M32 sprung clutch plate (TTV can also supply a M32 sprung clutch plate), z22se clutch cover and the M32 gearbox with standard M32 slave cylinder.

makes the conversion a nut and bolt job :D
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Hello. As you advised me I learned and came to a standstill.
Where did you buy that flywheel? Can you give a link? And the clutch disc?
TTV offers me a flywheel for motor z22se (lower than yours) - http://ttvracing.com/products/?manufacturers=opel-vauxhall&engine=opel-vauxhall-z22se&type=flywheels
Courtenaysport offers me the same flywheel TTV (lower than yours) - photo attached
I asked Courtenaysport also for Helix sprung clutch disc and they offer me only clutch disc Helix for M32 240mm 20teeth (Z20LEH) - http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/buy...ung-uprated-organic-clutch-disc/prod_724.html
or (a Z22SE disc 228mm ??teeth - they have not yet responded - probably 14 teeth). I'm not sure that the clutch disc 240mm fit under the flywheel 228 mm. You can write me the clutch disc number - may still somewhere you have the disc number or select the link which the clutch discs you buyed for this instalation?
update;

you can now buy a z22se M32 lightened flywheel from TTV Racing £228 +vat

this means the slave cylinder does not now need any spacers, so simply fit the z22se M32 flywheel, Helix M32 sprung clutch plate (TTV can also supply a M32 sprung clutch plate), z22se clutch cover and the M32 gearbox with standard M32 slave cylinder.

makes the conversion a nut and bolt job :D
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Hello. As you advised me I learned and came to a standstill.
Where did you buy that flywheel? Can you give a link? And the clutch disc?
TTV offers me a flywheel for motor z22se (lower than yours) - http://ttvracing.com/products/?manufacturers=opel-vauxhall&engine=opel-vauxhall-z22se&type=flywheels
Courtenaysport offers me the same flywheel TTV (lower than yours) - photo attached
I asked Courtenaysport also for Helix sprung clutch disc and they offer me only clutch disc Helix for M32 240mm 20teeth (Z20LEH) - http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/buy...ung-uprated-organic-clutch-disc/prod_724.html
or (a Z22SE disc 228mm ??teeth - they have not yet responded - probably 14 teeth). I'm not sure that the clutch disc 240mm fit under the flywheel 228 mm. You can write me the clutch disc number - may still somewhere you have the disc number or select the link which the clutch discs you buyed for this instalation?
 

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vocky

Staff
the flywheel shown above is for a z22se F23 - £213 + vat

you need a z22se M32 £285 + vat

I purchased my Helix clutch plate from Courtenay, the owner Jon sorted it for me.
 

rafman

Member
the M32 box is designed for a Dual Mass Flywheel puke..

to use a normal flywheel a spacer needs to be made for the clutch slave cylinder :roll:

EDIT: you can now buy a z22se M32 flywheel so the spacer is not required

the M32 has a distance of 59.5 mm between the mating face and the slave cylinder, the F23 has 46.5mm, so a 13mm spacer is required :)

thanks to Luna_s for measuring the F23 box cheers..

I also had to machine a slot to allow the clutch slave cylinder to sit flat on the spacer and use some longer bolts :)

the fitted spacer.....

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hey

I know this is an old thread, I'm trying to swap from f23 to m32 in mine. I've a question can I keep the original flywheel, and pressure plate with the spacer? I mean just buy an clutch disc that fits in m32 input shaft spline/diameter?

thanks
 
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