Can The Clutch Gearbox Me Pushed Back An Inch Or So

nathann88

As iv mentioned before i get replied to quicker on here than i do on a ford page.
🙂
we have a mondeo 2ltr tdci which was producing a dtc code with the crankshaft sensor,

i went to remove it today to give it a clean up it was all oiled up and dirty. however it was bouncing around due to the garage who replace the clutch and flywheel didnt do a good job.
they have broken the crankshaft bracket and im sure the 2nd bolt that should be holding it in place is inside with the flywheel. (which would explain the sound we get which i thought was due the soild flywheel instead of the dmf.)

is it possible just to undo the housing push it back 1/2 an inch (theres a bit of room) find the bolt replace the bracket? is it possible do to this on any car? im stuck as the car is blocking my astra in the garage and can not be started due to the crankshaft not holding in place at all now. 🙁

the flywheel and clutch only push together dont they? iv not done any yet, and now i have to.
nathan

evocarlos

last time i tried to change a clutch in the car was in a Renault 19 16v with the box off i had 12mm of moment i had no chance to get the clutch out in the end i had to put a big fence post across the top of the engine bay then rope up the engine and drop the sub frame off and passenger side wheel and strut to give me the 4" i needed to change the clutch
there a pain in the ass to get back in if the clutch plate is not centered when bolting it to the flywheel normally as centering tool is used to cover this issue

so if it looks like there's not much room to move the box out of the way then it may be the case of doing the same

corsaZ22se

some after market solid flywheels to replace dual mass ones are very poor and not balanced. the clutch is bolted to the flywheel. not done mondeo but done transits with same engine, ford have trouble with their flywheels and clutches on these engines. if youve payed some one to fix it you should take it back under waranty.

Daz

We used to fit solid conversions on the transits and mondeos etc, but the gearbox's are not up to the job and they usually destroy themselves after a short time, so if its has a dmf from factory, we will fit a dmf as a replacement....

However back to ure problem. the ckp sensor is bolted to the vehicle by 1 bolt irrc, then the holder is bolted to the engine block with 2 6mm bolts, from memory you dont need to remove the holder to remove the gearbox, jus tthe one bolt from the sensor,.. so i would be taking the vehicle back to whoever fitted the new parts and ask them politliy to fix what they have fooked up.

nathann88

Thanks for the replies , it was all fitted about a 1 1/2 years ago, not had any poplems untill today when i looked at the crankshaft sensor.

i dont think they used thread lock on the 2 bolts hence why they were loose or missing. (as far as i know the bolt should be in the housing but they may not have fitted it)
i only want to find the bolt and refit a new bracket then hopfully thats the job/fault done.
somebody did reply on ford (after your replies) and said maybe try to remove the starter and poke a magnet down inside, but then i still havent got access to the 2nd bolt for the sensor.

Daz

If the bolt has been floating around in the belllhousing for any amount of time, i wud imagine that it is far from any use now... iirc its a 6mm thread with a 8mm hex head .. dont think you will get enuff clearance if you were to undo the bellhousing bolts and draw the gearbox away from the engine.....so i dont think ure idea above is a goer....
To take the gearbox out and replace is around an 8hr+ job, as the subframe has to be removed....

nathann88

i may wait and ask nicely at college if i can use the ramps 😉 thinking about it.
knowing me ill wake up tomorrow and see if i can shift it over just to fix the crank shaft sensor.

nathann88

well i ended up doing it on the road at home. i had to get the engine support beam on it as well as both my jacks, with some nice sized plywood to aid in lifting the engine up.

had to drop the sub frame to shift it over so it was a bit of a pig to do. just to remove a lost bolt.

however i found the lost bolt luckly it had fallen behind the flywheel and was trapped in a cut out section.
replaced the bracket removed the bolt and no flywheel noise. (so all that time it was a bolt and not the fact it had been changed to a soild flywheel.)

im glade im doing this college course and have this website with you guys for back up, as the tiny bit of faith i had in most garages has gone.
they didnt fit the bolts correctly no lock tight, the bracket on the crankshaft sensor was broken. (would have been installed like it)
and where it had a leak on the oil seal that they replaced they left all the oil in the outta casing, so it drips out when the car warms up. so i managed to clean most of it out.

you only know if the jobs been done if you have done it yourself.

corsaZ22se

well done, i know what you mean about garages! because you dropped the sub frame i would advise haveing the wheel alignment checked. not just the tracking but a 4 point geometry check.

nathann88

corsaZ22se said:
well done, i know what you mean about garages! because you dropped the sub frame i would advise haveing the wheel alignment checked. not just the tracking but a 4 point geometry check.

really should look at the replys after doing the job.

after the new problem of faulty injectors, its now on the road. so at some point ill take it to college and do the alignment myself (with the tutors help of course lol).