poundy wasnt as easy to fit as the piper one as you have to make a few modifications. firstly some of the holes needed elongating as they were tight getting the studs in and you cant get a socket on most of the attachement bolts to the head so you have to do most by spanner alone, and some of them are not easy. secondly its shorter to the down pipeconnection than the piper one so it was a bit tight getting it to come together. i guess if you have a standard one it will prob be the same as the new one as i guess thats what they would have taken as the guide messurment.. not sure how johnnys compairs with the original, but i may get the down pipe altered in the future so it is not stressing the flexi too much. thirdly the standard manifold has studs attached to it to attached the downpipe so it has to have nuts and bolts fitted instead. i would thoughly recommend this is a 2 person job to do this bit as it is a bugger to hold against the bolts while trying to do the nuts up from underneath and lastly the heat shield does not fit over as the tubing on the two centre pots is far higher than the standard manifold so you have to bash out the middle a bit and elongate one of the holes. even after doing this it is still very tight below show the differences between the piper one and the chris tullet one the piper one weighs 5lbs 5 oz's the chris tullett one weighs 6lbs 7 oz's quite a difference but when you look at them both close up its easy to see and feel that the \CT one is much thicker and more robust. side by side veiw of both the chris tullett one the piper one hopefully some of this may help others who are planning to fit this type of manifold.
Maverick I havent bothered to put the heatsheild back on, as it can't be bolted on properly, I didnt want to start hammering it and make it look gash.
poundy Maverick said: I havent bothered to put the heatsheild back on, as it can't be bolted on properly, I didnt want to start hammering it and make it look gash. it looks ok as it happens, if i could i would leave it off but there is so much heat under there with the charger going i didnt want to damage anything
Matt poundy said: Maverick said: I havent bothered to put the heatsheild back on, as it can't be bolted on properly, I didnt want to start hammering it and make it look gash. it looks ok as it happens, if i could i would leave it off but there is so much heat under there with the charger going i didnt want to damage anything Perfect time to have some bonnet louvres pressed in Paul?
poundy Matt said: poundy said: Maverick said: I havent bothered to put the heatsheild back on, as it can't be bolted on properly, I didnt want to start hammering it and make it look gash. it looks ok as it happens, if i could i would leave it off but there is so much heat under there with the charger going i didnt want to damage anything Perfect time to have some bonnet louvres pressed in Paul? do you think it would be ok to run it without the heat sheild?
Maverick I don't see why not. A supercharger doesn't generate anywhere near the heat that a turbocharger does.
poundy Maverick said: I don't see why not. A supercharger doesn't generate anywhere near the heat that a turbocharger does. so it wont affect the hot water pipes above it?
JohnnyN Maverick said: I don't see why not. A supercharger doesn't generate anywhere near the heat that a turbocharger does. Believe Matt! Its hotter than hell under my bonnet. My 1st gel battery split open within 4 weeks with the heat. The engine runs hot very quickly. Even when I collected the car, Jon advised me to get in touch with Cool Louvres in Hampshire as it was getting rather hot under the bonnet.
JohnnyN Bit of a dual purpose thing there. Help with air in and to stop the MAP sensor bracket hitting the bonnet.
poundy JohnnyN said: Maverick said: I don't see why not. A supercharger doesn't generate anywhere near the heat that a turbocharger does. Believe Matt! Its hotter than hell under my bonnet. My 1st gel battery split open within 4 weeks with the heat. The engine runs hot very quickly. Even when I collected the car, Jon advised me to get in touch with Cool Louvres in Hampshire as it was getting rather hot under the bonnet. mine doesnt get that hot under the bonnet to be honest im more worried that if i take the heat sheild off items directly around the manifold would be affected.
poundy Matt said: Didn't they also adjust the bonnet as well John for better air flow? thet didnt adjust mine, all they did was take off the sound proof wadding cos they couldnt shut the bonnet with it on.
Matt What items sit around the manifold? Daz and Aly both ran their Z20LET engines with the heat shield off, and get their manifolds/turbo's glowing red due to the level of tune, and there are loads of ancillary parts on the front around that area.
JohnnyN The only pipes above the manifold are the water pipes into the heater matrix and the aircon pipe runs above on mine. That's it.
Matt Z20LEH - as you can see, loads of bits around the manifold. Water pipes, oil pipes, aircon pipes etc.
pottsey i can see me having fun when the s/c is fitted along with the weapon r that im getting of nickyb this weekend .he has already said its melted some plastic cable trays on his :crazy:
poundy Matt said: Z20LEH - as you can see, loads of bits around the manifold. Water pipes, oil pipes, aircon pipes etc. ah yes but most of those pipes are silicone! so no melting taking place with those!