Electric mirrors/starter motor

brchippy

Hi,

<u>Electric mirrors</u>
Both my electric mirrors only move in the UPWARDS direction and OUTWARDS direction, using the joystick control on the drivers door.
Where do i look to solve the problem, could it be the joystick as the both the mirrors have the fault in the same direction.

<u>Starter motor</u>
I need to remove my starter motor, the solenoid seems to be clicking every now and then, maybe its full of clutch dust or just a bad wire connection.
Can anyone verify how many bolts hold it in place (I can see 2) one is normal hexagon head and the other is a torx bolt.
I dont know what size torx socket I need, does anyone know? (its bigger than E12 i have one of those).

Also at the bell housing were the starter fits there seems to be a pinch bolt, is this also something i would need to loosen to remove the starter.

Thanks

MikeS

most likely a worn mirror motor but for it happen on both might be worth replacing the relay or joystick first

part number is 24432680 for relay
part number is 24443880 for joystick

3 10475638 12 02 656 -SCREW, FILL.HD., M5 X 102, STARTER 2
4 10484518 12 03 254 -HOUSING, WITH BEARING, FRONT END 1
5 1114593 12 01 821 -SWITCH, STARTER 1
1 12575626 62 02 037 STARTER, ASSY. (EXCEPT RAYONG) HATCH, SALOON, ESTATE, MONOCAB F08, F35, F48, F69, F75 C 22012029-

brchippy

I dont see the 2 bolts in that picture m8, that i can see on my starter ( 2001 astra bertone 2.2 )
I think the pinion gear maybe clogged up with dust, i want to remove the starter to check it out.

Its situated at the front of the engine down below, and looks to me like 1 hex headed bolt about 17mm or 19mm at the top and 1 torx head bolt lower down visible from the front (larger than E12 but not sure what size), i dont have any other sockets like that , need to buy one.

thanks for the part numbs for the mirror joystick/relay, where is the relay situated for the mirrors and how do i identify which it is.

thanks

MikeS

identify using part number

should be located in either your fuse box area or driver side kick panel

pm a bloke called ecky about the start motor as he has had a lot of experience with his starter / flywheel, is it clicking or just turning freely btw

brchippy

it starts the car ,but its not quite as it should be, little clicking as though maybe the connection is intermitant, then when it starts there feels like some kick back with the engine(maybe sticking pinion gear), so i was going to remove the starter, clean it all up then refit and check wiring was indeed good connection.
Its a new factory recon engine fitted couple weeks back.
The engine runs good no problem after it starts.

cpwfos

as far as i can remember the torx screw doesnt hold the starter on its the bigger hex one u can see on the top and there another big on underneath to make it easier first remove the cylinder bit that the wires connect to (bit i can never remember the name of 🙂 ) and then from underneath car you can get at the other with an extension bar ,there only 2 long bolts holdin on that aformentiond cylinder bit hope this helps :thumbup:

ecky1972

yes two bolts one above and one below you will need to have a extention bar to be able to get a socket on the one above starter they should look like a star type bolt but you will be able to get a normal 11mm socket on them dont over tighten them when you put it back on as you could crack the engine block

brchippy

Thanks guys, I'll have another look and see if i can make sense of it from your info 🙂
Working around the weather as lying on the ground in the rain is no fun.

Oh I played around with the switch and I managed to get my mirrors working, well not quite 100% but it definately is the joystick type switch on the drivers door to blame.